Wireless networks

[Phil]

Thank you for reading this.

Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two laptops,
both running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet via a
Technicolor (real brand name) modem.

I had expected that both laptops would have access to each other's files
but that is not the case, so far. I have experimented with smb4k but
with limited success.

Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless network and
was able to access their desktop computer with smb4k without any effort
at all.

Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I had expected?

[Diego Bello]

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two laptops, both
running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet via a Technicolor (real
brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each other's files but
that is not the case, so far. I have experimented with smb4k but with
limited success.
Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless network and was
able to access their desktop computer with smb4k without any effort at all.
Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I had expected?
--
Regards,
Phil

Maybe there is a firewall blocking access to smb in your Linux
machines. Try disabling shorewall and iptables and connect again with
smb.

[Phil]

Post by Diego Bello

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two laptops, both
running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet via a Technicolor (real
brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each other's files but
that is not the case, so far. I have experimented with smb4k but with
limited success.
Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless network and was
able to access their desktop computer with smb4k without any effort at all.
Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I had expected?
--
Regards,
Phil

Maybe there is a firewall blocking access to smb in your Linux
machines. Try disabling shorewall and iptables and connect again with
smb.

Thanks for your replies Diego, Jim and Cokey.

I have progress a little and can now access the USB port on the modem
with "smb://techcicolor/media" using Firefox. I had expected to be able
to use the same method to access files on each laptop but sadly not.

The IP address for the laptops are 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.3 and I can ping
from one to the other.

So where do I go to from here? The laptops can see each other but so far
I'm unable see any files.

[Jim Beard]

Post by Phil

Post by Diego Bello

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two
laptops, both
running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet via a
Technicolor (real
brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each
other's files but
that is not the case, so far. I have experimented with smb4k
but with
limited success.
Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless
network and was
able to access their desktop computer with smb4k without any
effort at all.
Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I
had expected?
--
Regards,
Phil

Maybe there is a firewall blocking access to smb in your Linux
machines. Try disabling shorewall and iptables and connect
again with
smb.

Thanks for your replies Diego, Jim and Cokey.
I have progress a little and can now access the USB port on the
modem with "smb://techcicolor/media" using Firefox. I had
expected to be able to use the same method to access files on
each laptop but sadly not.
The IP address for the laptops are 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.3 and I
can ping from one to the other.
So where do I go to from here? The laptops can see each other but
so far I'm unable see any files.

I suspect that is a matter of smb settings, and I cannot help
with that at all.

Cheers!

jim b.

[Phil]

All of a sudden and for no apparent reason smb4k can now see my Windows
shared files.

So, I now know that the network hardware will allow file sharing and
that I can successfully ping each computer under Linux I'm back to my
original question.

How do I arrange for each computer on my network to share files under Linux?

I'm sure I must have read every tutorial on the subject available from
Google.

[Diego Bello]

Post by Phil
All of a sudden and for no apparent reason smb4k can now see my Windows
shared files.
So, I now know that the network hardware will allow file sharing and that I
can successfully ping each computer under Linux I'm back to my original
question.
How do I arrange for each computer on my network to share files under Linux?
I'm sure I must have read every tutorial on the subject available from
Google.
--
Regards,
Phil

I think you can set that up in the Control Center, aka Configure your Computer.

[Phil]

Post by Diego Bello
I think you can set that up in the Control Center, aka Configure your Computer.

Thanks Diego,

Yes that's true and it works well but only for Windows shared files.

[Jerry Lapham]

Post by Phil
The IP address for the laptops are 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.3 and I can ping
from one to the other.
So where do I go to from here? The laptops can see each other but so far
I'm unable see any files.

Is smbd running on the laptops? That's the samba server.

-Jerry
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH 45050
rjlapham-vDbLwGUA7lNWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org
=============================================
Paint baboon bottoms; leave no stern untoned

[Phil]

Post by Jerry Lapham

Post by Phil
The IP address for the laptops are 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.3 and I can ping
from one to the other.
So where do I go to from here? The laptops can see each other but so far
I'm unable see any files.

Is smbd running on the laptops? That's the samba server.

Yes, but from my understanding Samba is designed to allow Linux to see
Windows shared files. What I want to do is have two Linux laptops share
each others files.

[Jerry Lapham]

Post by Phil

Post by Jerry Lapham

Post by Phil
The IP address for the laptops are 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.3 and I can ping
from one to the other.
So where do I go to from here? The laptops can see each other but so far
I'm unable see any files.

Is smbd running on the laptops? That's the samba server.

Yes, but from my understanding Samba is designed to allow Linux to see
Windows shared files. What I want to do is have two Linux laptops share
each others files.

Samba is one of the ways for Linux systems to share. My Linux desktop shares
files with my Linux laptop all the time.

-Jerry
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH 45050
rjlapham-vDbLwGUA7lNWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org
=============================================
When sign painters strike, do they carry blank signs?

[Jim Beard]

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two
laptops, both running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet
via a Technicolor (real brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each
other's files but that is not the case, so far. I have
experimented with smb4k but with limited success.
Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless
network and was able to access their desktop computer with smb4k
without any effort at all.
Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I had expected?

If you configure your computers to use network sharing such as
smb or nfs, decline to use WPA2 encryption or better, and disable
your firewalls, you and anyone else with access to the 'Net will
be able to access your computers.

Windoz provides a substantial serving of this without prompting
from you, but Linux/UNIX/*nix systems by default normally make
you actually do something to make your systems that insecure.

I would suggest you go to a public library and take a look at the
books they have on Linux system administration. They will likely
not have exactly the book tailored for your system, but you may
be able to find something you can understand that will cover the
general principles of what needs to be done.

Cheers!

jim b.

[Cokey]

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two
laptops, both running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet
via a Technicolor (real brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each
other's files but that is not the case, so far. I have
experimented with smb4k but with limited success.
Some time ago I had connected to someone's Windows wireless
network and was able to access their desktop computer with smb4k
without any effort at all.
Am I using the correct tool or is there more to this than I had expected?

If you configure your computers to use network sharing such as smb or
nfs, decline to use WPA2 encryption or better, and disable your
firewalls, you and anyone else with access to the 'Net will be able to
access your computers.
Windoz provides a substantial serving of this without prompting from
you, but Linux/UNIX/*nix systems by default normally make you actually
do something to make your systems that insecure.
I would suggest you go to a public library and take a look at the books
they have on Linux system administration. They will likely not have
exactly the book tailored for your system, but you may be able to find
something you can understand that will cover the general principles of
what needs to be done.
Cheers!
jim b.

Be aware that some wireless routers come with "AP isolation" set on
which essentially puts each connection in it's own network. Here's a
blurb from my Linksys:

AP Isolation

Creates a separate virtual network for your wireless network. When this
feature is enabled, each of your wireless client will be in its own
virtual network and will not be able to communicate with each other. You
may want to utilize this feature if you have many guests that
frequent your wireless network.

Cokey

[Phil]

Post by Phil
Thank you for reading this.
Continuing on with my new Internet connection I now have two
laptops, both running Linux, wirelessly connected to the Internet
via a Technicolor (real brand name) modem.
I had expected that both laptops would have access to each
other's files but that is not the case, so far. I have
experimented with smb4k but with limited success.

As is often the case the answer to my question was quite simple.
smb;//host_name is used to access my Windows files and sftp://host_name
is used to access my linux files.

Now I want to access an item of hardware connected to my network from
the Internet. I think that might be a bit more difficult.

[Jim Beard]

Post by Phil
As is often the case the answer to my question was quite simple.
smb;//host_name is used to access my Windows files and
sftp://host_name is used to access my linux files.
Now I want to access an item of hardware connected to my network
from the Internet. I think that might be a bit more difficult.

The first key factor for this is your router that sits between
your local network and the Internet.

You must tell the router to either put a specific IP address in
the DMZ (unrestricted access to and from the 'Net) and tell the
router how to recognize what should go there, or tell the router
what ports or types of service should be directed to the piece of
equipmnet.

Once the router knows what to do, the machine on your local
network must be configured to work as the destination for
whatever the router is supposed to send it, and you should pay a
good bit attention to security to keep the destination machine
from being pwnd by hackers and crackers and to keep the
destination machine from doing things that make other machines on
your local network vulnerable.

Getting things to work will take a bit of effort.

Getting them to work properly, without creating security
vulnerabilities for your machine facing the 'Net directly, or
creating security vulnerabilities for your other network machines
indirectly, is a major task. Not simple. Not easy. Not usually
done well by anyone not experienced.

Assume that everthing on your local net is going to hacked,
cracked, and scarfed up by bad guys on the net. If you are
comfortable with that, go for it.

Cheers!

jim b.